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Podcast 024

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Intro, advertising

[01:23]


Atwood: Oh, you're recording already?

Spolsky: Yah.

Atwood: Oh, okay.

Spolsky: Well, we're gong to use some of this for the podcast - probably not all of it.  If there is anything we want to be secret or anything, then we won't use that.

Atwood: Check check check.

Spolsky: So hows your trip been to New York. What you guys been doing, just hanging around the office, right?

Atwood: Really Hanging round the office. We did go to the upright citizens last night. This was not a good night for that.

Spolsky:No? They weren't funny?

Atwood:Well... Okay, so it was a smack down, it was a one group vs. another kind of thing and the second guy, although he was good, it was not improptu. He did like a whole scene with some kind of Zombie infested thing, it was well done for what it was, but it was not improptu. 

Spolsky: Right

Atwood: Where he was talking to the other people and then he switched character and was talking to the other character, but it was like... Okay first of all its kind of scary, its about Zombies and all. It wasn't really that funny plus it was like "where was the improptu?", "where was the improvisation".

Spolsky: I hate improptu people they are always trying to cheat.

Atwood: Well i think that was a massive cheat. Cause like were some words spatuals and did he ever use it in a sentance?

Spolsky: [laugh]

Atwood: At least the first group, they did some fuzzy dice.They did some car related stuff. Which was , i mean resonable. They had to improvise

Dalgas/Dixon: Hard as double barrel shotgun

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[5:40]

Spolsky: Weren't they famous for accidentally charging everybody for a year?

Atwood: Yes.  But they had a whole blog entry about it, which was nice.  I really like that - "We made this massive, it was a massive massive mistake."  It was a lose-all-your-customers type of mistake, right?  Serious.  And they had a whole blog entry about it. "This is what we did, and why it happened, and here's what we're going to fix it."

Spolsky: They charged their customers for a year instead of a month or something.

Atwood: And it was a programming bug too!  I can't remember the exact details.

Spolsky: A typo.

Atwood: They weren't checking something, there was some date that was backwards or future, they weren't ruling it out.

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[8:14]

Spolsky: I turned down an advertiser.  Or a sponsor for IT Conversations, which was Audible.  Which sponsors a lot of podcasts.  I didn't really turn them down, I talked to Doug about this, and we both agreed that we didn't really want Audible.  One is because - no offense, but - I don't like Audible because the DRM.  The one time I tried to buy a book from them, I had a DRM issue and lost it promptly.  Maybe that happened twice, and it was not like worth dealing with anymore.  But the real reason was that they wanted us to talk in our own voices as if we were advocating Audible.com.

Atwood: Right.

Spolsky: The wanted us to do a couple of minutes in the show, pick a book and talk about it or something like that.  And that's deeply crossing the line, I think.

[9:00]

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[11:20]

Atwood: American Idol?

[11:21]

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[14:00]

Atwood: Sure

[ringing]

Spolsky: That's kind of a StackOverflow-y type theme

Atwood: Sure. No, I think we want to explore that.  As we start getting ad income, and things start moving forward we'll have money to do that stuff.

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Spolsky: No, I was thinking people could buiy that from us for a hundred and fifty dollars, and we could get it made in China for two.

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Pryor: What about this.  The idea of reputation is to make sure that somebody is serious about the site; they cant do certain things until they've given something to the community.  What if you don't have a lot of time, and you just want to pay for it?

Spolsky: Oh, buy reputation?  We could sell reputation?

Pryor: Yeah.

[14:38]

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[16:10]

Atwood: Bounty.  It's a bounty.

[16:11]

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[16:33]

Atwood: [...] That's the other problem, relative to the current financial crisis.  You do have to think through - it is a little bit like an economy, right?

Spolsky: Yep.

[16:40]

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[17:52]

Atwood: Oh, you rememeber your analogy of the people who throw the chess pieces?  People are playing chess, and

Spolsky: Yes

Atwood: other people are playing "let's throw the chess pieces around the park"?  I guess you got an email pointing out "Hey there was actually a user throwing chess pieces around the park the other day."

Spolsky: That might be a metaphor for us.

Atwood: There have been a couple of malicious users come out of the woodwork, and we have made a few changes around that, but it's been pretty calm, we haven't had too many problems.

[18:13]

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[23:44]

Spolsky: What was your topic?

Pryor: It was to allow another login other than OpenID.

Spolsky: Oh.

Atwood: The eternal OpenID thing.

[23:52]

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[1:01:45]


Atwood: Well, that was good.  Before we go, did you guys have anything?  Anything?  Like, why am I such an ass?

Spolsky: What's it like to work for this - cover up his ears.

What does Joel do here?

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Outro, advertising

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Last Modified: 9/4/2010 6:05 PM

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