Atwood: Hey Joel.
Spolsky: Hey Jeff. Welcome to Stack Overflow Podcast number 32.
Atwood: 32; it's a good number.
Spolsky: I know, it's the number of ice cream flavors plus one.
Atwood: Actually, there was a SO thread about how being a programmer changed how you view the world.
Spolsky: If you don't know that's 25, you're not a programmer.