Spolsky: Let's see if Jeff's in today...
Atwood: Hi Joel.
Spolsky: Hey Jeff.
Atwood: Another exciting episode of our podcast.
Spolsky: That's right. Only this one's not going to be so exciting.
Atwood: Boring. You're going to make this one boring?
Spolsky: You might as well. If you're a listener at home, just turn it off now.
Atwood: Save yourself!
Spolsky: Oh, I have something which we should talk about on today's podcast. We should have a section where we recommend gifts for geeks.
Atwood: You know, I've done that for the last 2 years on my blog, and I was kind of debating not doing it this year.
Spolsky: Well you can do it on the podcast and then you won't have to do it on the blog. Then that will solve that debate, if you were on the fence.
Atwood: OK. Did you want to start, since it's your topic?
Spolsky: We want people to listen to this show, and it's going to be awful, so let's do it towards the end.
Spolsky: It'll just be like a 'teaser'.
Atwood: A penalty for listening. (laughs)
Spolsky: (laughing) A penalty for listening to the whole thing! I swear to god I was listening to Twit, and they said HDMI cables are always a good gift.
Atwood: Are you serious?
Spolsky: If you know somebody, you know, it's a good gift if you know somebody that has their DVD player or their game, X-Box or something, plugged into the TV with one of those composite cables, like just a single...
Spolsky: ...the one with the yellow RCA jack and nothing else, you might want to get them an HDMI cable.
Atwood: That's pretty exciting. You could also get them like an Ethernet cable.
Spolsky: Yeah. Cause they might not have that.
Atwood: Yeah, they might not have that. Cables, I think, make a great gift particularly for women in your life, I think.
Spolsky: (laughing) Forget jewelry and purses...
Atwood: (as if from experience) Oh they love cables, let me tell ya.
Spolsky: ...and handbags.
Atwood: Yeah, just get 'em like, pink cables, cause then it's for the ladies. That's the guideline I used for buying consumer products. If it's pink it's for women. That's how I know.
Atwood: Otherwise I have no idea.