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Spolsky: Our guest today is Tom Limoncelli, the writer of The Practice of System Network Administration and also Time Management for Systems Administrators, recently out from O'Reilly. Right? Is that a recent book?? I haven't... I'm so behind on my reading. (laughter)

Limoncelli: The second edition of the Systems Network Administation book is new -- it's about a year old. The Time Management book is about four years old.

Spolsky: Right. That's sort of an old classic... older book. Well, not that you're that old, but that book is like... the first one came out in...?

Limoncelli: 2001

Spolsky: ... and so there's a new second edition that's out, so if you have the first edition, it's all wrong. Buy the second edition.

Spolsky: edit me!

Atwood: edit me!

Limoncelli: edit me!

The demonstration with the outline mode and the mouse that one of you was referring to was performed by Doug Engelbart and a team from SRI (not Xerox PARC) in 1968: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos

-- Alison Chaiken

(1:06)

Spolsky: Our guest today is Tom Limoncelli, who is the writer of The Practice of System Network Administration and also Time Management for Systems Administrators, recently out from O'Reilly. Right? Is that a recent book?? I haven't... I'm so behind on my reading. (laughter)

Limoncelli: The second edition of the Systems Network Administation book is new -- it's about a year old. The Time Management book is about four years old.

Spolsky: Right. That's sort of an old classic... older book. Well, not that you're that old, but that book is like... the first one came out in...?

Limoncelli: 2001

Spolsky: ... and so there's a new second edition that's out, so if you have the first edition, it's all wrong. Buy the second edition.

Limoncelli: Absolutely.  We made so many changes to the second edition.  First of all, all of the anecdotes that were about Solaris we now say they are about Linux.  You know, appeal to the young crowd.

Spolsky: Right. Does the young crowd even know what Unix is? If you said that, would it just not make any sense?

Atwood: So, Joel, you should also mention that Tom wrote The Complete April Fools' Day RFCs.

Spolsky: Ah!  Oh yeah, look at that.  Here it is on his website.

Atwood: Well, he's co-author, but.  That's more of a collection, right?  Did you actually write April Fools' day RFCs?

Limoncelli: I have never written April Fools' day RFCs.  It is a collection of the RFCs that are available for free, but the book has the advantage that Peter Salus (my co-editor) and I added some interviews and historic background to some of them.  And actually, there are three forwards to the book, because we asked three famous internet luminaries in parallel, figuring that all three of them would say no, but all three of them said yes.  So we published all three.

Spolsky: edit me!
Limoncelli: edit me!

Atwood: edit me!

Limoncelli: edit me!
Atwood: edit me!

Limoncelli: edit me!
The demonstration with the outline mode and the mouse that one of you was referring to was performed by Doug Engelbart and a team from SRI (not Xerox PARC) in 1968: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos

-- Alison Chaiken